{"id":23244,"date":"2022-05-27T09:03:37","date_gmt":"2022-05-27T13:03:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=23244"},"modified":"2022-05-27T09:03:37","modified_gmt":"2022-05-27T13:03:37","slug":"electric-indy-500","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=23244","title":{"rendered":"Electric Indy 500? &#8216;It\u2019s among the most interesting questions in motorsport&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Will the Indy 500 be electric someday, making Gasoline Alley an anachronistic term like Carb Day? (Associated Press)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>INDIANAPOLIS \u2014 There\u2019s nothing like the sound of an Indy car <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/tag\/speeding\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:0;\">speeding<\/a> down the famed main straight at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, its engine echoing off the massive grandstands in a way that isn\u2019t heard anywhere else.<\/p>\n<p>There\u2019s a crescendo as the car approaches from the distance of Turn 4, then a burst of peak volume as it passes at nearly <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/bmw\/230\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:1;\">230<\/a> mph, and finally a fade into the distance of Turn 1. Anyone who experiences it in person likely never forgets it.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s been an aspect of the speedway since Ray Harroun drove the six-cylinder Marmon Wasp to victory in the first Indianapolis 500 in 1911. Cars have evolved and speeds have tripled in the 111 years since, but the constant has been the sweet sound of those internal combustion engines.<\/p>\n<p>But with electric-powered vehicles pushing the auto industry toward a zero-emissions existence, will those loud-and-lovely echoes of Indy eventually fall silent?\u00a0 Is it possible, or even inevitable, that the Indianapolis 500 will be an all-electric race?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s among the most interesting questions in <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/motorsports\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:2;\">motorsport<\/a>,\u201d said veteran IndyCar driver J.R. Hildebrand. \u201cWhere do we see this going?\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img class=\"grp-full lazy\" data-headline=\"undefined\" data-summary=\"undefined\" data-original=\"https:\/\/o.aolcdn.com\/images\/dims3\/GLOB\/legacy_thumbnail\/1200x675\/format\/jpg\/quality\/85\/https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/os\/creatr-uploaded-images\/2022-05\/160a8ed0-db75-11ec-ae67-87cacc6098bf\"\/><\/p>\n<p><em>J.R. Hildebrand (Getty Images)<\/em><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Hybrids on the horizon<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Many within the IndyCar paddock believe full electrification of the series is coming. Nobody can predict when, although technology is advancing rapidly. This month at the speedway, there are examples of the speedway and the NTT IndyCar Series emphasizing initiatives to reduce their <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/tag\/carbon+footprint\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:3;\">carbon footprint<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>IndyCar will introduce new 2.4-liter twin-turbo hybrid-assisted <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/honda\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:4;\">Honda<\/a> and <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/chevrolet\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:5;\">Chevrolet<\/a> engines in 2024 producing 900 horsepower, 100 from the <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/hybrid\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:6;\">hybrid<\/a> element. Transporters that carry Indy cars and equipment from race to race are fueled by <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/category\/biodiesel\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:7;\">biodiesel<\/a>. Electric vehicles have been more prevalent around the speedway this month, from two-wheeled scooters many drivers use to get around to an electric-powered mobile merchandise <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/truck\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:8;\">truck<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-right\">\n<p>\u201cIn your mind, you\u2019re going to think,<\/p>\n<p>\u2018A car going that fast shouldn\u2019t sound like that.\u2019 But it will.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Firestone, the sole tire supplier to the series, delivered all race tires used at IMS this month via Freightliner eCascadia trucks. Firestone also has developed an eco-friendly alternate tire, constructed with natural rubber from the guayule shrub, that will be used on race cars in the pit-stop contest Friday. The first race on that tire is scheduled for August at Nashville.<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a long way from full electrification of race cars, but IndyCar and <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/performance\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:9;\">sports car<\/a> team owner Mike Shank, whose Meyer Shank Racing car driven by Helio Castroneves won the Indy 500 last year, is preparing for it.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe way our world is going, it looks like it\u2019s headed that way,\u201d he said. \u201cWhen we talk about electrification, certainly the hybrid is low-hanging fruit. It\u2019s not just hybrids, but pure <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/electric\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:10;\">electric cars<\/a>. What we\u2019re trying to do as a team is prepare for that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Everyone on Shank\u2019s IndyCar and sports car teams is taking part in a Honda Performance Development training program to learn how to safely work on electric cars.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUsed to be you could take your niece and nephew and shove them in the car for a picture, but (with electric race cars) you can\u2019t do that anymore,\u201d Shank said. \u201cThe car\u2019s got to be clear, not powered on, and safe to touch. We worry about safety first, and then how to optimize it later. Technology is moving fast and it\u2019s such an important hot button for all the OEMs, we all know kind of where it\u2019s headed.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img class=\"grp-full lazy\" data-headline=\"undefined\" data-summary=\"undefined\" data-original=\"https:\/\/o.aolcdn.com\/images\/dims3\/GLOB\/legacy_thumbnail\/1200x675\/format\/jpg\/quality\/85\/https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/os\/creatr-uploaded-images\/2022-05\/ed55b240-db91-11ec-a737-e7ffac120619\"\/><\/p>\n<p><strong style=\"color: #222222; font-family: -apple-system, BlinkMacSystemFont, 'Segoe UI', Roboto, Oxygen, Ubuntu, Cantarell, 'Fira Sans', 'Droid Sans', 'Helvetica Neue', sans-serif; font-size: 18px;\">&#8216;Sound is a generational thing&#8217;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>But how? When? And at what cost to the purists who equate speed with noise and won\u2019t easily accept the relative silence of an electric Indy car?<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSound is a generational thing,\u201d said Mike Hull, managing director of 14-time IndyCar Series champion and four-time Indy 500-winning team Chip Ganassi Racing. \u201cBut the generation that\u2019s going to set the future for the generations that follow (will) have grown up being accustomed to a different sound than we have.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hull envisions a person standing near Turn 1 at Indy while an electric race car passes quietly at 230 mph.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn your mind, you\u2019re going to think, \u2018A car going that fast shouldn\u2019t sound like that,\u2019\u201d he said. \u201cBut it will.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-left\">\n<p>&#8220;I want to stay current, and I want to do what\u2019s important to the world.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cFast and loud\u201d has been the mantra of IndyCar Series president Jay Frye, particularly in development of the new engines in 2024, so it seems clear internal combustion will be around awhile.\u00a0 Hull doubts it\u2019ll be forever, saying auto manufacturers and even governments are defining a future that includes racing.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe world governments, whatever country you\u2019re in, they\u2019re designing street cars today if you really think about it,\u201d Hull said. \u201cIt seems backward to me, but the reality is they are telling the car companies based on the rules and regulations being put in place around the world as to what vehicles need to do for the future. So yes, we will be racing a version of that, there\u2019s no question.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Shank says the old-school side of him hopes a niche market will remain for gas-powered units.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBut on the other hand, I don\u2019t want to be behind either,\u201d he said. \u201cI want to stay current, and I want to do what\u2019s important to the world.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img class=\"grp-full lazy\" data-headline=\"undefined\" data-summary=\"undefined\" data-original=\"https:\/\/o.aolcdn.com\/images\/dims3\/GLOB\/legacy_thumbnail\/1200x750\/format\/jpg\/quality\/85\/https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/os\/creatr-uploaded-images\/2022-05\/7dcad2a0-db7a-11ec-a73e-8bad987da52f\"\/><\/p>\n<p><em>Scott Dixon zips through Gasoline Alley on an <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/tag\/electric+scooter\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:11;\">electric scooter<\/a>. (AP)<\/em><\/p>\n<h2><strong>Not an EV kind of race<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>Hildebrand, who will race in his 12<sup>th<\/sup> Indy 500 on Sunday, says the nature of the race isn\u2019t conducive to electric cars in the current form of the technology. The 500 is a max-velocity, accelerator-to-the-floor event from start to finish, with deceleration and <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/tag\/brakes\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:12;\">braking<\/a> occurring when drivers pit a half-dozen times for fuel and tires. It\u2019s not nearly enough to regenerate a <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblotg.com\/tag\/battery\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:13;\" rel=\"noopener\">battery<\/a>, he said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cTo be able to average 180 miles per hour for 500 miles, we\u2019re a long way from the technology existing to be able to do that,\u201d said Hildebrand, who has been an adjunct lecturer in the vehicular dynamics program at Stanford and is involved with STEM programs when he\u2019s not racing. \u201cLooking at top-tier motorsports, having an electric car compete with an internal combustion engine, the Indy 500 is among the hardest ones to do that.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-right\">\n<p>&#8220;It\u2019s my opinion that the Indianapolis 500 is the place &#8230; where in the past these kinds of things were allowed to be explored.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Still, Hildebrand would love to see someone develop an electric race car and prove it can run laps at Indy as fast as an internal combustion engined car, even if it isn\u2019t ready for a 500-mile race. In a way, it would take Indy back to a time when it was a proving ground for <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/category\/tech\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:14;\">automotive technology<\/a>. In the current era, IndyCar is a spec-racing series under highly constrained regulations to keep competition balanced and affordable. The racing has never been closer, but experimentation and innovation among teams is extremely limited.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt\u2019s my opinion that the Indianapolis 500 is the place, particularly in American motorsport and really globally if you look at the historical arc of where motorsport comes from, where in the past these kinds of things were allowed to be explored,\u201d Hildebrand said. \u201cIf we followed the same trajectory in the way that regulations are currently written across the sport \u2013 we write very highly constrained, highly restrictive rules for a particular type of powertrain architecture \u2013 and we\u2019re just waiting for electrification to prove that it can produce 230 mph qualifying laps and an average speed of 175 or 180 mph over the course of an event, it might just never happen. And even if it does, a ton of other stuff will be electric at that point, so it\u2019s not going to be a super interesting thing.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img class=\"grp-full lazy\" data-headline=\"undefined\" data-summary=\"undefined\" data-original=\"https:\/\/o.aolcdn.com\/images\/dims3\/GLOB\/legacy_thumbnail\/1200x675\/format\/jpg\/quality\/85\/https:\/\/s.yimg.com\/os\/creatr-uploaded-images\/2022-05\/d2fb6b10-db7d-11ec-b7b3-47cac86d7c41\"\/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>&#8216;All right, bring it!&#8217;<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>If Hildebrand were in charge, he\u2019d draw up a plan that gives an electric-powered car a chance to at least show how it stands with the internal combustion engine crowd, whether or not it\u2019s ready to race 500 miles.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI would start today figuring out ways to integrate almost an X-prize style \u2013 come and just show me what you\u2019ve got \u2013 some kind of mechanism where electrification would be welcome immediately at the speedway in the context of IndyCar racing,\u201d he said. \u201cYou can imagine that operating at a qualifying level of pace will come a lot sooner than being able to operate at that speed over the course of 500 miles. If you left it completely wide open to say that anybody who qualifies with any of these technologies gets in the race, that\u2019s a little too open. You could quickly have cars that qualify but have no business competing over the course of 500 miles.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hildebrand believes motorsport could be a lot more awesome if it embraces these new technologies over the next decade.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"pull-quote pull-quote-left\">\n<p>&#8220;The point of going racing is to showcase different ways of doing things.&#8221;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cBecause of its history and because it is one of the hardest places for anything but an internal combustion engine to be any good, Indy is kind of like the perfect place to say, \u2018All right, bring it!\u2019 There\u2019s no risk in that,\u201d he said. \u201cThere\u2019s a possibility that by doing that, it becomes the place that everybody goes to see this happen.\u00a0 You think about how crazy it was for a turbine <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/auto-shows\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:15;\">car to show<\/a> up in 1967, imagine how completely insane people would go if you legitimately had electric cars qualifying at the same time as internal combustion engine cars, and there\u2019s this crazy prize. Think about the degree of unpredictability to that relative to what we deal with now. The enormity of that circumstance cannot be overstated.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And when battery life\/regeneration is not an issue in a race like the Indy 500, he would love a scenario where an electric cars battle to the finish with an internal combustion-powered cars.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cSay we get to the end of the race and everybody is on the same strategy, making the same <a class=\"injectedLinkmain\" href=\"https:\/\/www.autoblog.com\/tag\/fuel+economy\/\" data-ylk=\"elm:context_link;itc:0;pos:1;sec:donut-hole;cpos:16;\">fuel economy<\/a>,\u201d he said. \u201cYou might end up with situations where because of the way electrification works and how much less power density they are giving up under caution relative to an internal combustion engine sitting out there burning (fuel), suddenly the electric cars are the ones with an advantage in the final stint, and you\u2019ve got a runaway of electric cars.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s going to be people who hate that. But that\u2019s kind of the point. The point of going racing is to showcase different ways of doing things and that some things are better than others in certain conditions. That\u2019s why we show up to compete.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Will the Indy 500 be electric someday, making Gasoline Alley an anachronistic term like Carb Day? (Associated Press) INDIANAPOLIS \u2014 There\u2019s nothing like the sound of an Indy car speeding down the famed main straight at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, its engine echoing off the massive grandstands in a way that isn\u2019t heard anywhere else. 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