{"id":33633,"date":"2022-10-13T13:38:58","date_gmt":"2022-10-13T17:38:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=33633"},"modified":"2022-10-13T13:38:58","modified_gmt":"2022-10-13T17:38:58","slug":"bmw-m2-and-bmw-m4-weight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=33633","title":{"rendered":"M2 and M4: Heavyweights"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The G87 M2 is finally here \u2013 and what a car it promises to be. While there\u2019s no doubt the powerful 458-horsepower S58 engine beneath the hood and massive 285mm rear tires will provide miles of smiles, enthusiasts can\u2019t help but be worried. Why? Weight.<\/p>\n<p><noscript><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-436620\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"2023 bmw m2 driving 04 830x553\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\" title=\"image of 2023 bmw m2 driving 04 830x553\"\/><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-436620\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20553%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"2023 bmw m2 driving 04 830x553\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-driving-04.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\" title=\"image of 2023 bmw m2 driving 04 830x553\"\/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>That Was Then\u2026<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>For reference, the last generation M2 and M4 Coupe advertised similar curb poundage. The M4 Competition lugged around just 3565 pounds when equipped a manual transmission, and the row-your-own M2 weighed 3450 pounds. That\u2019s only a delta of 115 pounds \u2013 not a lot. Generous, too \u2013 because depending on which model year, you might get a different number if you ask BMW. Some sources indicate as little as 25 pounds of weight separating the M2 Competition and 2019 M4 Competition Coupe.<\/p>\n<p>That said, there\u2019s a little more to the story. The M4 Coupe, for example, had optional carbon-ceramic brakes that saved around 40 pounds. Those were never available on (most) M2s. Lighter, optional CS-spec wheels, too. Not to mention it got the lightweight driveshaft that the M2 Competition never received. A carbon-fiber reinforced plastic (CFRP) roof remained exclusive \u2013 and standard \u2013 on the M4, as well.<\/p>\n<p>Now we\u2019re going to look at where the all-new G87 M2 sits in relation to the current G82 M4. Unlike the F8X generation, the playing field has been leveled a bit. The G87 experiences almost none of the de-contenting that its predecessor did \u2013 and the M4 loses some of its tricks, like that drive shaft.<\/p>\n<p><strong> <noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-432052\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"bmw m4 g82 toronto red 05 830x553\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\" title=\"image of bmw m4 g82 toronto red 05 830x553\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-432052\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20553%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"bmw m4 g82 toronto red 05 830x553\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/08\/bmw-m4-g82-toronto-red-05.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\" title=\"image of bmw m4 g82 toronto red 05 830x553\"\/><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2><strong>G82 M4 Weight <\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>So, let\u2019s kick it off with the G82. BMW says that the new M4 \u2013 in manual guise \u2013 weighs a not-insignificant 3830 pounds. I imagine that number can grow depending on the wheels. The standard 18 and 19-inch setup likely keeps weight three or four pounds lower per wheel than the optional 19\/20-inchers that most people tend to option. But carbon-ceramic brakes would offset that and then some \u2013 as mentioned, they\u2019ve historically shaved about 40 pounds off.<\/p>\n<p>So, let\u2019s call it a net loss of 30 pounds with carbon ceramics and the mandatory bigger wheels. Optional carbon bucket seats save the G82 another quoted 21 pounds. \u00a0We\u2019ll call in total optimal weigh in for the G82 at around 3779 pounds.<\/p>\n<p>Just like the F8X cars, the M4 does a relatively great job of keeping weight low. Similar vehicles in this space \u2013 think Mercedes\u2019 C63 or Cadillac\u2019s CT4-V \u2013 weigh more. The big Caddy tips the scales at around 3850 pounds, and Merc\u2019s car is over two ton mark. So count your blessings. Next up: the new kid.<\/p>\n<p><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-436704\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-436704\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20553%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-race-track-51.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>G87 M2 Weight <\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>What do we know about the G87 M2? Well, it\u2019s heavy, too. To quote BMW, it undercuts the M4 by just 16 pounds. Yup \u2013 quoted curb weight for the manual G87 M2 is 3814. But that doesn\u2019t quite tell the whole story. Carbon roof isn\u2019t standard on this car \u2013 and that is said to cut around 13 pounds. The same carbon chairs are available here to cut a BMW-claimed 24 pounds.<\/p>\n<p>However \u2013 there are still some unknowns when it comes to the M2\u2019s packaging. Carbon ceramic brakes have not been confirmed as an option. If they\u2019re there, that\u2019s a huge savings over the standard brakes as usual. As the standard wheels \u2013 Style 930M \u2013 are the same 19\/20-inch mix that BMW requires when optioning carbon ceramic brakes on the M4, I think our chances are good.<\/p>\n<p>So, all in \u2013 if we\u2019re really lucky and all cross our fingers and toes at once \u2013 the G87 M2 <em>could<\/em> weigh as little as 3740 pounds, in optimal weight-saving spec. Granted\u2026by my estimation, that car would also cost nearly $80,000 USD. Don\u2019t worry \u2013 I\u2019m sure that\u2019ll sound like a bargain once the M2 CS (or better, CSL\u2026?) gets announced.<\/p>\n<p><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-436718\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-436718\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20553%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2023-bmw-m2-exterior-03.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/p>\n<h2><strong>M4 and M2 Are Heavy Hitters <\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>So \u2013 on a good day, and if we pray to the BMW gods \u2013 an M2 <em>might<\/em> save 40 pounds over a comparably equipped M4. That\u2019s not a lot, and you\u2019re a lot more likely to feel the difference in wheelbase than the weight. If you want a light car \u2013 you need to look elsewhere and be willing to compromise on tech, power, and other benefits the new M2 and M4 offer.<\/p>\n<p>Spoiler alert: BMW isn\u2019t all that concerned about weight anymore. With electrification\u2019s heavy batteries taking the reins on driving, it\u2019s no surprise. It\u2019s the ever-growing gorilla in the room that no OEM really wants to talk about, and who can blame them? Most drivers don\u2019t care and the rest \u2013 despite their protests to the contrary \u2013 won\u2019t notice 50 pounds on a 3700-pound car. Don\u2019t believe me? The 2015 M3 and M4 Press Release mentions weight 46 times. The latest M2\u2019s? Just eight. The G80 and G82 press release talks about it just 12 times. Maybe it\u2019s time to go on a diet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The G87 M2 is finally here \u2013 and what a car it promises to be. While there\u2019s no doubt the powerful 458-horsepower S58 engine beneath the hood and massive 285mm rear tires will provide miles of smiles, enthusiasts can\u2019t help but be worried. Why? Weight. That Was Then\u2026 For reference, the last generation M2 and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":20,"featured_media":33634,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-33633","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-industry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33633","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/20"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=33633"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/33633\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/33634"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=33633"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=33633"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=33633"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}