{"id":49533,"date":"2023-05-12T11:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-05-12T15:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=49533"},"modified":"2023-05-12T11:00:00","modified_gmt":"2023-05-12T15:00:00","slug":"vinfast-vf-8-city-edition-first-drive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=49533","title":{"rendered":"VinFast VF 8 (City Edition) first drive: A solid start, but there&#8217;s always room for improvement"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"img-border featured-image\">\n\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"skip-lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-side-beach.jpg?quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;w=1400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-side-beach.jpg?w=320&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 320w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-side-beach.jpg?w=640&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 640w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-side-beach.jpg?w=1024&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-side-beach.jpg?w=1500&amp;quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;ssl=1 1500w\" width=\"1400\" height=\"700\" alt=\"VinFast VF 8\" fetchpriority=\"high\"\/><\/p>\n<\/figure>\n<p>As flagship VF 8 models continue to make their way over to North America, <em>Electrek<\/em> was invited to <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/guides\/Vinfast\/\">VinFast\u2019s<\/a> first media drive event, and I was one of the first to experience the limited run City Edition SUV. While there is certainly room for improvement, VinFast is off to a promising start with the VF 8 \u2013 below are my thoughts.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-298834\"\/><ins class=\"adsbygoogle author_ad ad-container adsbygoogle author_ad hide-lg author-in-content\" data-ad-host=\"ca-host-pub-5506057612223327\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-8939143170397121\" data-ad-format=\"auto\"\/><\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-yoast-seo-table-of-contents yoast-table-of-contents\">\n<h2>Table of contents<\/h2>\n<\/div>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignwide size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1400\" height=\"700\" src=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?quality=82&amp;strip=all&amp;w=1024\" alt=\"VinFast VF 8\" class=\"wp-image-298916\" srcset=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg 1400w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=150,75 150w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=300,150 300w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=768,384 768w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=1024,512 1024w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=350,175 350w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=140,70 140w, https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2023\/05\/VinFast-VF-8-lined-up.jpg?resize=290,145 290w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1400px) 100vw, 1400px\"\/><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-background-and-first-impressions-of-the-vinfast-vf-8\">Background and first impressions of the VinFast VF 8<\/h2>\n<p>Since we first started covering VinFast back in 2021, the VF 8 has been a flagship model on our radar. It <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2021\/11\/18\/vinfast-launches-two-evs-announces-us-hq-and-manufacturing-in-2024\/\">originally debuted in the US<\/a> at the LA Auto show as the VF e35, but was <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/01\/06\/vinfast-unveils-three-new-electric-vehicles-at-ces-in-addition-to-the-rebranded-vf-e35-and-e36\/\">rebranded a year later<\/a> to the model name we recognize today.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019ve had plenty of other VinFast news to cover in the two year plus span since the VF 8\u2019s debut, including plans for <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/07\/14\/vinfast-north-carolina-incentives\/\">US manufacturing<\/a> and an IPO that appears <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2023\/05\/12\/vinfast-business-combination-list-us-ipo-valuation-over-23-billion\/\">closer than ever<\/a>. This past fall, VinFast <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/11\/25\/vinfast-achieves-milestone-with-first-batch-of-vf8-evs-to-the-us\/\">successfully delivered its first batch<\/a> of VF 8 SUVs to the US, although customer deliveries were <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2023\/02\/03\/vinfast-delays-first-us-ev-deliveries-to-late-feb\/\">initially delayed<\/a> due to some software issues (more on that later).<\/p>\n<p>To date, VinFast has delivered the City Edition of its VF 8 SUV to customers in California and Vancouver, while we await <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2023\/03\/27\/vinfast-to-ship-longer-range-vf-8-evs-larger-vf-9-suv-to-the-us\/\">deliveries of Standard version<\/a> whose cargo boat just reached the Benicia Port, near San Francisco.<\/p>\n<p>Earlier this week, I was one of the fortunate media personnel to be invited to VinFast\u2019s first US drive event and experience the City Edition of the VF 8. Here\u2019s what the SUV is packin\u2019.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-vinfast-vf-8-specs-and-pricing\">VinFast VF 8 specs and pricing<\/h2>\n<p>Let\u2019s start with pertinent details so you\u2019re well versed in VinFast\u2019s first mid-size SUV inside and out before you hear my impressions. As I previously mentioned, the EV currently exists in two iterations \u2013 City Edition and Standard. Of those editions, the VF 8 comes in two available trims \u2013 Eco and Plus.<\/p>\n<p>Since the Standard versions aren\u2019t yet available in the US, I was given a VF 8 City Edition Plus for the day to cruise around Southern California. Here are some important specs pertaining to the configuration I drove:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Motors:<\/strong> Dual motor (150 kW)<\/li>\n<li><strong>Max Power:<\/strong> 300 kW<\/li>\n<li><strong>Max Torque:<\/strong> 620 Nm<\/li>\n<li><strong>Max Speed:<\/strong> 124.3 mph<\/li>\n<li><strong>Acceleration (0-62mph):<\/strong> 5.5 seconds<\/li>\n<li><strong>Battery capacity (usable):<\/strong> 82 kWh<\/li>\n<li><strong>EPA range:<\/strong> 191 miles<\/li>\n<li><strong>Charging time:<\/strong> 10-70% in under 24 minutes<\/li>\n<li><strong>Charging rate (onboard):<\/strong> 6.6-11 kW<\/li>\n<li><strong>Peak DCFC rate: <\/strong>up to 160 kW<\/li>\n<li><strong>ADAS:<\/strong> Level 2 (Highway assist, Lane keep assist, etc.)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>As you can see, the specs here are decent, but nothing to necessarily drool over. That being said, this is the City Edition, of which VinFast only produced 999. The incoming Standard VF 8 is touting better specs for sure. <\/p>\n<p>While the City Editions are powered by Samsung battery cells, the Standard version features chemistry (cobalt manganese) <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/10\/31\/catl-deal-vinfast-skateboard-chassis-for-evs-enhance-global-footprint\/\">from CATL<\/a>, whose cells deliver better energy density in a slightly larger pack (88.7 kWh vs. 82 kWh). We actually just got the official EPA ranges while we were at the event, which we\u2019ve included below. <\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s how the four different VF 8 will break down side-by-side:<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table is-style-regular\">\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Trim Level<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Powertrain<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Power<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>EPA Range<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Base Price (MSRP)<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>VF 8 Eco (City Edition)<\/td>\n<td>AWD Dual Motor<\/td>\n<td>348 hp <br \/>(368 lb-ft)<\/td>\n<td>207 miles<\/td>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/vinfastauto.us\/vehicles\/vf-8\">$49,000<\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>VF 8 Eco (Standard)<\/td>\n<td>AWD Dual Motor<\/td>\n<td>348 hp <br \/>(368 lb-ft)<\/td>\n<td>264 miles<\/td>\n<td>$49,000<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>VF 8 Plus (City Edition)<\/td>\n<td>AWD Dual Motor<\/td>\n<td>402 hp <br \/>(457 lb-ft)<\/td>\n<td>191 miles<\/td>\n<td>$56,000<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>VF 8 Plus (Standard)<\/td>\n<td>AWD Dual Motor<\/td>\n<td>402 hp <br \/>(457 lb-ft)<\/td>\n<td>243 miles<\/td>\n<td>$56,000<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/figure>\n<p>A little pricey compared to similar models in the market, but competitive nonetheless. A huge perk  that US consumers will love in my opinion, is the warranty VinFast is delivering with the VF 8. The EV itself comes with a 10-year, 125,000 mile warranty. Better yet, the vehicle\u2019s battery gets a 10-year, unlimited mileage warranty, and those guarantees follow the EV, meaning a second or third owner still qualifies in that ten year period.<\/p>\n<p>Enough about the numbers though, let\u2019s hop inside and explore what this EV has to offer.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-driving-impressions-inside-and-out\">Driving impressions inside and out<\/h2>\n<p>Notice anything unique about the dashboard? That\u2019s right, no instrument cluster. This was a first for me and after nearly two decades of driving, I found my eyes subconsciously diverted to the speedometer that wasn\u2019t there.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, the vehicle\u2019s speed and other pertinent details are available to view on the left side of the center tablet\u2019s screen. This took some getting used to for sure. The saving grace was the VF 8\u2019s head-up display (HUD) which was fantastic in my opinion. I didn\u2019t even notice it at first due to my polarized sunglasses, but suddenly saw it and was so elated, since there was no cluster behind the steering.<\/p>\n<p>I was able to adjust its position and brightness and clearly see it during the sunny weather around San Diego (I tried to get a picture of it for you seen above). Overall, I found the cockpit roomy and its design intuitive. Every toggle or button I expected would do a certain function did so, so I immediately felt at home in the EV.<\/p>\n<p>The design of the UX was also easy to navigate, although it was a bit of a pain to have to keep selecting the main menu then the Apple CarPlay icon to get back to my navigation. That said, bluetooth connection through wireless CarPlay was seamless, even after turning the EV on and off.<\/p>\n<p>I think VinFast has a good backbone of software in the VF 8, but there are some very blatant bugs in the system. If you look closely at some of my pictures of the display above, you\u2019ll notice several icons lit up that shouldn\u2019t be there. <\/p>\n<p>For instance, the whole time I was driving, the EV said I was in park. Turn signal icons remained illuminated even though the blinker wasn\u2019t activated and at one point, I was told my seatbelt wasn\u2019t on when it clearly was. <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2022\/06\/07\/over-the-air-updates-how-does-each-ev-automaker-compare\/\">An OTA software patch<\/a> should fix these minor issues fairly quickly I\u2019d imagine, but that should definitely be done before these vehicles reach more drivers.<\/p>\n<p>As for the overall drive of the VinFast VF 8, I was pleasantly surprised at how sporty it was, even in Normal mode. On paper, its acceleration times are mediocre, but it felt a lot speedier on the road. I truly enjoyed Sport mode \u2013 I found it very \u201cloose\u201d for a mid-size SUV and had a lot of fun whipping around curves up to Lake Hodges near Escondido.<\/p>\n<p>Regenerative braking was decent in my opinion, but you all know I like it stiff. The VF 8 is definitely not a one pedal driving EV, so you will need to use the brake often. My biggest qualm with this vehicle was the lack of brake lock when stopped.<\/p>\n<p>I was shocked the first time I stopped at a light on a hill and came to a complete stop, when I took my foot off the brake I immediately rolled backward like I was driving a manual transmission. At this point with EVs, I\u2019m used to coming to a complete stop and being able to remove my foot from either pedal. That roll back in the VF 8 is something I believe VinFast should amend immediately.<\/p>\n<p>Here are some other quick thoughts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>I loved the panoramic glass roof and its ability to open. It was perfect while parked next to the ocean.<\/li>\n<li>The VF 8 beeped at me way too much. Whether it was lane keep assist, speed limit warnings, or something else, VinFast\u2019s EV was constantly yelling at me. Not a fan of that.<\/li>\n<li>Despite the low range on the City Edition VF 8 Plus, I found its energy usage quite efficient and had no worries about range in my 3+ hours trip around town.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-electrek-s-take\">Electrek\u2019s Take<\/h2>\n<p>I have personally been on the VinFast beat since October of 2021, when the automaker announced it was coming to the US. Since then, I\u2019ve been in touch with its team, stayed in the news loop, and even attempted to visit Vietnam three times without luck due to my schedule.<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, I\u2019ve been looking forward to the opportunity to speak with executives at VinFast (many of which are female by the way, which we love to see) and experience the VF 8 first hand. Following my time inside and out of the vehicle, I think the company is off to a good start. The core design is there \u2013 but there is room for improvement in many elements of EV design.<\/p>\n<p>The more powerful battery pack should go a long way with US consumers, because any EV with an EPA under 200 miles probably won\u2019t get a second look. Is that enough range for the average driver? Probably, but the consumer market isn\u2019t privy enough to range needs and driving habits yet, unfortunately.<\/p>\n<p>Price might be an issue \u2013 especially since VinFast is a virtually unknown brand in the country. I had multiple people in San Diego ask me about the EV while I was taking pictures, but I was still getting a lot of confusion about what it actually was and was asked what level of gas mileage it gets even though I clearly stated it was electric. We\u2019ve got a long way to go people.<\/p>\n<p>The warranty program is a slam dunk in my opinion, especially the coverage of the battery and the fact that its transferrable to new owners. Well done.<\/p>\n<p>While we were at the event, VinFast has a VF 9 on display \u2013 its next EV coming to the US. I think this one is going to do well with US consumers \u2013 VinFast\u2019s most important market according to North American CEO Van Anh Nguyen.<\/p>\n<p>Just looking at it, I noticed several improvements compared to the VF 8, including flush door handles, power shades on the windows, and a pretty significant wheelbase. It\u2019s a low ride, too \u2013 perfect for families, pets, and those with disabilities.<\/p>\n<p>With three more models (VF 9, VF 6 and VF 7) expected to reach the US market before year\u2019s end, VinFast continues to earn the second half of its name. I just worry that it is moving so quickly that it will have difficulty going back and making design and performance improvements necessary to truly stand out in a growing EV market. The VF 8 is a great start, but VinFast will need to deliver more at a better price to truly gather the piece of the US market its targeting.<\/p>\n<p>Next, I\u2019m very much looking forward to getting my hands on a Standard VF 8 and am just as excited about the incoming VF 9. I\u2019ll be sure to report back when those drive inevitably happen.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad-disclaimer-container\" readability=\"6.3518518518519\">\n<p class=\"disclaimer-affiliate\"><em>FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links.<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/about\/#affiliate\">More.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><!-- post ad --><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As flagship VF 8 models continue to make their way over to North America, Electrek was invited to VinFast\u2019s first media drive event, and I was one of the first to experience the limited run City Edition SUV. 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