{"id":82647,"date":"2025-05-28T12:00:44","date_gmt":"2025-05-28T16:00:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=82647"},"modified":"2025-05-28T12:00:44","modified_gmt":"2025-05-28T16:00:44","slug":"bmw-ev-future-frank-van-meel-interview","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=82647","title":{"rendered":"Frank van Meel Says the Next Electric M Will Be Faster Than You Think"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>We got to sit down with BMW M boss, Frank van Meel, at the 2025 Concorso d\u2019Eleganza Villa d\u2019Este. Subject matters ranged far, but stayed decidedly far from some of the heavier headlines of the weekend. For example, the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bmwblog.com\/2025\/05\/27\/2026-bmw-m2-cs-official-specs-pricing\/\">M2 CS<\/a> surprise visit or the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bmwblog.com\/2025\/05\/23\/bmw-speedtop-official-reveal-details\/\">Speedtop Concept debut<\/a>. We covered some familiar favorites, though, including the new (and old) M5, hybridization and electrification, and hypercars (kind of).<\/p>\n<h3>M5 Demand is Holding Strong<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22.jpg\"><noscript><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-497936\" title=\"2025 BMW M5 SEPIA METALLIC 22\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"2025 BMW M5 SEPIA METALLIC 22\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-497936\" title=\"2025 BMW M5 SEPIA METALLIC 22\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20553%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-830x553.jpg\" alt=\"2025 BMW M5 SEPIA METALLIC 22\" width=\"830\" height=\"553\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2025-bmw-m5-sepia-metallic-22.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/a><br \/>The <a href=\"https:\/\/www.bmwblog.com\/2025\/01\/16\/i4-m50-best-selling-bmw-m-2024\/\">i4 M50 is the best-selling M vehicle car<\/a> by volume. And the M2 is the best-selling full M. But the M5 is putting up impressive numbers, according to van Meel. He says there\u2019s a \u201cvery, very high demand for the new M5,\u201d and that the model is \u201cskyrocketing in production, numbers and sales. It\u2019s [demand] not going down.\u201d What might be more surprising is that Europe\u2019s orders are predominantly for the sedan version. In the US, the Touring is captivating more customers. Frank says that worldwide, it\u2019s \u201cmore or less 50\/50.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On a related note, Frank also fielded some questions around the M5\u2019s weight, unsurprisingly. While acknowledging the car\u2019s weight, he mentions that \u201cit\u2019s quicker than its predecessor on the tracks.\u201d He attests that weight was the \u201conly trade off\u201d BMW had to make for making the M5 \u201ceffortless to drive,\u201d citing improved fuel economy, more power, lower emissions, and a smooth powerband.<\/p>\n<p>And Frank says BMW M treated the M5\u2019s weight problem as they would in racing. Wider wheels, a wider track with wider bodywork, active rear steering, and positioning the batteries low on the vehicle help make the car still behave like an M5. \u201cWe know we\u2019re going to put weight in the car,\u201d he said, but it was calculated. It was the cost of doing business in order for BMW M to use the V8 engine.<\/p>\n<h3>Making The Case For Hybrid and Electric M Cars<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-scaled.jpg\"><noscript><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-441141\" title=\"2023 BMW i4 M50 with M Performance Parts\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-830x559.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"559\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-830x559.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-1521x1024.jpg 1521w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-768x517.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-1536x1034.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-2048x1379.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-441141\" title=\"2023 BMW i4 M50 with M Performance Parts\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20559%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-830x559.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"559\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-830x559.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-1521x1024.jpg 1521w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-768x517.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-1536x1034.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/2023-BMW-i4-M50-with-M-Performance-Parts-3-2048x1379.jpg 2048w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/a><br \/>Frank isn\u2019t tied to certain drivetrains in his M cars. \u201cM \u2014 since 1972, when we were founded as M, or Motorsport GmbH \u2014 has always been motorsport and emotion. And every time you sit in an M, and you drive an M, you say, this is an M\u2026it\u2019s all about emotion and motorsport. And that is more or less independent from the drivetrain.\u201d He\u2019s right, too. He discusses the engine rotations the M3 has seen through the years \u2014 from revy four-cylinder to screaming six- and eight-pots to the turbocharged S55 and S58 of more recent memory. And every time, without fail, \u201cit drove like an M3 and everyone was happy, and we sold more than before.\u201d Right again, Frank.<\/p>\n<p>Long story short: he feels the same way about electrification and hybridization. \u201cWhat we\u2019re currently doing with electrification, once that comes to the market, you will say \u2018I didn\u2019t see that coming\u2019.\u201d He compares it to the F90 M5\u2019s debut, where some heard \u201call-wheel drive\u201d and ran scared. \u201cI said the same with the M xDrive when we came to the last generation M5, that it\u2019s not four-wheel drive. It\u2019s rear-wheel drive with more traction, and everyone was afraid that it would just go straight forward, no rear wheel bias dynamics anymore.\u201d Of course, now, we know that van Meel was largely accurate when he said that. \u201cNow with electrification, I can only say it\u2019s going to be a typical M it\u2019s just going to be much quicker,\u201d he says.<\/p>\n<h3>Differentiating BMW M EVs From Other Cars<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07.jpg\"><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-498340\" title=\"2027 BMW M3 ELECTRIC ZA0 07\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-830x554.jpg\" alt=\"2027 BMW M3 ELECTRIC ZA0 07\" width=\"830\" height=\"554\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-1534x1024.jpg 1534w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-1536x1026.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-498340\" title=\"2027 BMW M3 ELECTRIC ZA0 07\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20554%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-830x554.jpg\" alt=\"2027 BMW M3 ELECTRIC ZA0 07\" width=\"830\" height=\"554\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-830x553.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-1534x1024.jpg 1534w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-768x513.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-1536x1026.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/03\/2027-bmw-m3-electric-za0-07.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/a><br \/>One big challenge all automakers face is separating their performance EV offerings from the competition. In the nuclear arms race that is electrified powertrains, 1,000 horsepower simply isn\u2019t enough. \u201cMagical ingredients is a nice terminology,\u201d van Meel begins. \u201cYou need to have this innovation, because people know what electric cars drive nowadays, and if you look at that, you say, that\u2019s nice, but that\u2019s maybe not, still not exactly what I\u2019m looking for.\u201d With fewer perceptible cues, like audible downshifting, EVs make it tough to know how quick you\u2019re going \u2014 especially on a race track. \u201cBut if you look down, [at the speedometer], you lose,\u201d Frank says. \u201cYou need a better integration of the driver into the car so that you know where you are and you are in control.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A central component to making BMW M EVs drive the way an M car should is engineering. Frank says the idea that BMW M is making an M version of the upcoming Neue Klasse isn\u2019t quite correct. \u201cThat is wrong, because everything we need for M in the Neue Klasse had to be integrated in the whole setup of the Neue Klasse right from the start.\u201d Frank claims \u201cif it\u2019s not in the architecture, it\u2019s sometimes impossible to add it.\u201d That\u2019s where BMW\u2019s Heart of Joy comes in. It\u2019s applicable for every vehicle, whether it\u2019s got a single electric motor or four.<\/p>\n<h3>BMW Hypercar? Eh\u2026<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01.jpg\"><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-480425\" title=\"bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-830x623.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"623\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-830x623.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-1365x1024.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01.jpg 1920w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"lazyload alignnone size-medium wp-image-480425\" title=\"bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml,%3Csvg%20xmlns=%22http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg%22%20viewBox=%220%200%20830%20623%22%3E%3C\/svg%3E\" data-src=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-830x623.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"830\" height=\"623\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-830x623.jpg 830w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-1365x1024.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/cdn.bmwblog.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/07\/bmw-neue-klasse-supercar-01.jpg 1920w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 830px) 100vw, 830px\"\/><\/a><br \/>The hypercar (still) isn\u2019t happening, at least not any time soon. The question cited BMW\u2019s World Endurance Championship (WEC) involvement as the possible case for a roadgoing hypercar. \u201cNot necessarily,\u201d van Meel starts. \u201cWhat you always try to do at M is to make cars that are that are as close as possible to racing. That\u2019s why we are in racing,\u201d he says. Talk about a non-answer, but it doesn\u2019t really look like van Meel is entertaining the idea.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We got to sit down with BMW M boss, Frank van Meel, at the 2025 Concorso d\u2019Eleganza Villa d\u2019Este. Subject matters ranged far, but stayed decidedly far from some of the heavier headlines of the weekend. For example, the M2 CS surprise visit or the Speedtop Concept debut. We covered some familiar favorites, though, including [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":82648,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-82647","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-industry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82647","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=82647"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/82647\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/82648"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=82647"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=82647"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=82647"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}