{"id":83743,"date":"2025-09-16T13:47:35","date_gmt":"2025-09-16T17:47:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=83743"},"modified":"2025-09-16T13:47:35","modified_gmt":"2025-09-16T17:47:35","slug":"rivians-super-secret-e-bike-startup-keeps-dropping-strange-cryptic-teasers","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=83743","title":{"rendered":"Rivian’s super secret e-bike startup keeps dropping strange, cryptic teasers"},"content":{"rendered":"
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We\u2019ve been following Rivian\u2019s quest to develop an in-house electric two-wheeler for years now, dating back to 2022 when we spotted them poaching top electric bicycle talent<\/a> from companies like Specialized. But despite years of development work, no one on the outside really knows what the company\u2019s micromobility startup ALSO is truly working on. And thanks to several strange teaser videos shared by the apparent skunkworks program, we still don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n

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We had a pretty good idea that the company has its sights set on an honest-to-goodness electric bicycle, at least based on what Rivian CEO RJ Scaringe said back in 2023.<\/a> <\/p>\n

Rivian spun out a startup called ALSO<\/a> to focus its micromobility work, and they\u2019ve been hard at work both on and offline. ALSO\u2019s social media team has kept up a steady drip of eclectic teasers, often showcasing a single component without any explanation or background. And it appears they\u2019ve spent big ad money on getting those teasers in front of a large audience.<\/p>\n

For example, one post showcases the copper windings of two different motor stators, showcasing what appears to be two different sizes of relatively small-diameter hub motors, though perhaps one is the stator of a mid-drive motor. Two motors would be surprising on an electric bicycle. While it\u2019s been done many times<\/a>, dual motors are usually found on out-of-class e-bikes that are essentially small electric motorcycles skirting motorcycle laws. A single motor is plenty powerful for street-legal e-bikes, and thus dual motors would only seem necessary on something intended for more power than a typical electric bicycle.<\/p>\n

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Another clip<\/a> shows a control board that has a surprisingly large footprint for something that would conceivably be stored in the frame or body of a conventional electric bicycle. It also looks to have connections for two different motor phase wires, implying driving a pair of motors from the single board. Back in 2010, I headed up an electric bicycle startup developing a model with a completely enclosed front triangle, which could be a solution that would support housing such large-format electronic components within ALSO\u2019s presumed e-bike.<\/p>\n

A window in the large circuit board also gives us a partial view of a pair of wheels that seem roughly bicycle-sized, also revealing a conventional fork and disc brake rotor on the wheel. <\/p>\n

The potential for dual motors and some large fairing to conceal that circuit board would imply the possibility of something larger than a typical e-bike, perhaps even a moped or light electric motorcycle. The same clip also appears to reveal an engineer working on a gray metal component that looks suspiciously like a rear swing arm, which would lead us to believe that the bike would feature rear suspension.<\/p>\n

Despite some of those clues that would imply something bigger or more powerful than a typical e-bike, other teasers show people \u201criding\u201d along a sidewalk on invisible bikes, miming pedaling actions, which would imply functional pedals. And another teaser displays a belt pulley of what could be a belt drive on the pedal drivetrain, though it could also be a final drive coming from a centrally mounted motor.<\/p>\n

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In yet another strange post<\/a>, the bike is completely blurred out, but we can see a rider holding what are likely a set of handlebars awkwardly close to his waist, which would be a position more commonly seen on a standing electric scooter than on an e-bike or e-motorcycle. However, he may also be straddling the bike and simply standing closer to the bars. <\/p>\n

He also appears to be wearing a jacket with back armor, something rarely seen among e-bike riders but much more common in the motorcycling world (though I\u2019ve advocated for it on e-bikes, too<\/a>). <\/p>\n

On the other hand, the bike or skate helmet worn by the rider still implies that we\u2019re back in the bike world, not the moto-world.<\/p>\n

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Keeping the hype train rolling, another short video<\/a> shows a partial view of the battery in various stages of assembly. The cylindrical cells look like 18650 or 21700 cells, used in many electric vehicles, but most commonly light electric motorbikes and e-bikes. While the camera is too zoomed in to determine the size of the battery, it looks like the cells are arranged in a fairly tightly packed configuration with frequent and close-spaced reversing of the cells. This is done to weld the cells in series \u2013 a necessary step for increasing the voltage of the pack. <\/p>\n

But the fairly small number of cells grouped together in a single orientation, perhaps as few as six (though it could be more due to the limited framing of the shot), would imply a somewhat small battery by motorcycle standards, potentially around 20Ah or less, if using relatively common 3.5Ah 18650 cells arranged in a 6p configuration. That puts us back in electric bicycle territory (or an underspec\u2019d electric moped), though there could be multiple battery packs to increase the overall capacity.<\/p>\n

But pushing back towards something larger is the sophisticated LED lighting setup, which uses two powerful LED segments to create what might be a high\/low beam configuration. We rarely see such powerful lighting on electric bikes and find this setup more often on seated electric scooters and motorbikes. But then again, ALSO is part of Rivian and thus would easily benefit from Rivian\u2019s automotive-level components and supply chain.<\/p>\n

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Then there\u2019s a censored shot of two people on the bike in question, with a child strapped into a kid\u2019s safety seat, implying a utility or cargo bike configuration that can allow for a passenger on the rear rack.<\/p>\n

Plus, to make things even more interesting, these shots are all interspersed with artistic designs, strange kinetic wind art, penguin furries, crystal prisms, nature themes, and other seemingly random motifs that either point to the artistic whims of ALSO\u2019s social media folks or are just random red herrings to confuse us further.<\/p>\n

Basically, there are many clues, some of them seemingly contradictory, none of which really tell us that much more than we already knew, which is that ALSO is building personal electric vehicles of some unknown type. <\/p>\n

The company says all will be revealed on October 22, so we\u2019re on the edge of our seats waiting for that reveal. It could be a major shakeup in the industry, or the company could go the route of basically every other automotive company <\/a>that tried to build an e-bike and failed miserably. Time will tell. <\/p>\n

But there\u2019s one thing I can say for sure. I\u2019ve covered e-bikes longer than just about anyone else in this industry, and this is the weirdest freaking launch lead-up I\u2019ve ever seen. <\/p>\n

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We\u2019ve been following Rivian\u2019s quest to develop an in-house electric two-wheeler for years now, dating back to 2022 when we spotted them poaching top electric bicycle talent from companies like Specialized. But despite years of development work, no one on the outside really knows what the company\u2019s micromobility startup ALSO is truly working on. And […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8313,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"default","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-83743","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-e-cars"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83743","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=83743"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/83743\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/media\/8313"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=83743"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=83743"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=83743"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}