{"id":9011,"date":"2021-10-26T06:10:21","date_gmt":"2021-10-26T10:10:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/autosector.com\/auto\/?p=9011"},"modified":"2021-10-26T06:10:21","modified_gmt":"2021-10-26T10:10:21","slug":"elon-musk-confirms-tesla-hertz-discount-questions-tsla-surge","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/autosector.com\/?p=9011","title":{"rendered":"Elon Musk confirms Tesla didn&#8217;t give Hertz discount on 100k EV order, questions TSLA surge over it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla didn\u2019t give Hertz a discount on its order of 100,000 electric cars.<\/p>\n<p>The CEO also questions Tesla\u2019s incredible stock price surge following the news.<\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-208104\"\/><ins class=\"adsbygoogle author_ad\" data-ad-host=\"ca-host-pub-5506057612223327\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-4655152367470280\" data-ad-format=\"auto\"\/>\n\t\t<\/p>\n<p>As we reported yesterday, rental car company Hertz announced that it placed <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2021\/10\/25\/hertz-orders-100000-teslas-the-single-largest-ev-purchase-ever\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">an order of 100,000 Model 3 electric vehicles with Tesla<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>The order is part of the rental car company\u2019s effort to electrify and modernize its fleet.<\/p>\n<p>Yesterday, a source told <em>Bloomberg<\/em> that the deal was valued at $4.2 billion, which could mean that Hertz is not getting a deep discount on the cars like it usually does.<\/p>\n<p>Rental car companies have been known to get deep discounts when placing large fleet orders.<\/p>\n<p>For some of them, it\u2019s part of their business model to get discounts on large fleet orders and sell the vehicles for close to the same price they bought it after it\u2019s been used as a rental for a while.<\/p>\n<p>Now Tesla CEO Elon Musk has confirmed on Twitter that Tesla didn\u2019t give Hertz a discount on the order:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>To be clear, cars sold to Hertz have no discount. Same price as to consumers.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>If the value reported by <em>Bloomberg<\/em> is accurate, it would put the average price of the Model 3 ordered by Hertz at $42,000.<\/p>\n<p>The Model 3 currently starts at $44,000, but that\u2019s after<a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2021\/10\/22\/tesla-hikes-model-3-model-y-prices-again-deliveries-slip\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> a $2,000 price increase that Tesla implemented last week<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If the rental car company placed the order last week, it could have indeed paid $42,000, the same price as customers placing new orders at that time, and only ordered Standard Range Plus Model 3 vehicles.<\/p>\n<p>Tesla now estimates that people placing new orders now for the Model 3 Standard Range Plus in the US would get their cars in June 2022.<\/p>\n<p>Hertz said that it plans to take delivery of all 100,000 Model 3s it ordered by the end of next year.<\/p>\n<p>As we reported yesterday, Tesla\u2019s stock price surged following the news and it pushed the automaker\u2019s valuation past $1 trillion. <\/p>\n<p>In another tweet, Musk questioned the surge following the news of the Hertz order:<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote\">\n<p>Strange that moved valuation, as Tesla is very much a production ramp problem, not a demand problem.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Musk has often said that he believes Tesla\u2019s valuation was too high, even before this most recent surge.<\/p>\n<p>However, he also recently said that he believes <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2021\/09\/04\/elon-musk-tesla-tsla-worth-3000-share\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Tesla is worth $3,000 per share<\/a> (3x as much as now) by 2025 \u201cif they execute well.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2 id=\"h-electrek-s-take\">Electrek\u2019s Take<\/h2>\n<p>I guess Elon has a good point: The order doesn\u2019t change much for Tesla. It basically just increases its already big backlog of orders by a few months and 100,000 more vehicles.<\/p>\n<p>Tesla won\u2019t be able to produce or deliver more cars because of it. It is still production constrained, as he mentions.<\/p>\n<p>However, as we previously noted, Tesla\u2019s stock price surge yesterday wasn\u2019t solely about the Hertz order.<\/p>\n<p>Tesla\u2019s stock was already up significantly premarket open after <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/2021\/10\/25\/tesla-tsla-surges-all-time-high-huge-rental-order-1200-target-price\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Morgan Stanley significantly increased its price target on Tesla to $1,200 per share<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>But the Hertz news itself is positive for Tesla, not just because of the actual order.<\/p>\n<p>It will encourage more rental companies and other large fleet managers to secure more EV orders, which is going to be good for the space and for consumer perception of EVs.<\/p>\n<p>It will also enable more people to try Tesla vehicles when they get a rental, and we know the effect Tesla has on people during test drives. <\/p>\n<p>Finally, Hertz is also launching a marketing campaign featuring Tom Brady around the integration of the Model 3 in their fleet.<\/p>\n<p>While the focus is on Hertz, the Model 3 is primarily featured and that is basically a lot of free marketing for Tesla. More mindshare for the automaker.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad-disclaimer-container\">\n<p class=\"disclaimer-affiliate\"><em>FTC: We use income earning auto affiliate links.<\/em> <a href=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/about\/#affiliate\">More.<\/a><\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/3voNSNv\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/electrek.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/3\/2021\/10\/1.jpg?quality=82&amp;strip=all\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-206868\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<hr\/>\n<p>&#13;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCcOIZzJgLCyMPILY7-1Vsdg?sub_confirmation=1\">Subscribe to Electrek on YouTube for exclusive videos<\/a> and subscribe to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.electrek.co\/guides\/electrek-podcast\">podcast<\/a>.<!-- youtube embed --><\/p>\n<div class=\"fluid-width-video-wrapper\"><iframe title=\"Recent Videos\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ijRG1NgYsSQ?playlist=iNo5AsOlG4A,mt-ZhXjmnys,cus_h2Egh10,qDj1LZnD_z4,k6VkPJyPZ4Q,1IuN1IkQOBo,8P4c3svQdAs,VOhCruQ7PI8,Cc5E4H4V5KA\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen=\"\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\">[embedded content]<\/iframe><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Elon Musk has confirmed that Tesla didn\u2019t give Hertz a discount on its order of 100,000 electric cars. The CEO also questions Tesla\u2019s incredible stock price surge following the news. As we reported yesterday, rental car company Hertz announced that it placed an order of 100,000 Model 3 electric vehicles with Tesla. 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